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Veronica Kirin: Are you scaling up, or burning out?

Veronica Kirin scaled and sold her own tech company, and she went through the 70 hour work weeks and a lot of burnout in the process. Now, she coaches startup CEOs and small business owners, who she calls “empire builders,” and helps them scale their own businesses without pushing them past their 24-hour human limit.

In this episode, hear Veronica and Donald talk about how small enterprise owners can build more efficiency in their businesses and lives.

The Donald Thompson Podcast is hosted by Walk West CEO, mentor, investor, and Diversity and Inclusion Consultant Donald Thompson.

Music for this episode provided by Jensen Reed from his song, “You Can’t Stop Me”.

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